tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2031371770440010046.post5250752380768667516..comments2024-02-24T19:28:28.716+11:00Comments on Psallite Sapienter: Vespers pre- and post-1912Joshuahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2031371770440010046.post-6576451009016986412010-02-06T03:36:41.934+11:002010-02-06T03:36:41.934+11:00Of course, the ferial Office had been very deliber...Of course, the ferial Office had been very deliberately obscured by the number of double feasts and votive Offices as they were shorter than the ferial Office and the various supplementaries.<br /><br />It is unfortunate IMHO that a more sympathetic approach was not taken whereby the Old Psalterium remained and the Calendar had a severe pruning as had happened in 1568.<br /><br />The old cursus Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2031371770440010046.post-85427439325701610702010-02-03T21:44:57.021+11:002010-02-03T21:44:57.021+11:00Yes, I too find it much easier, somehow, to say ju...Yes, I too find it much easier, somehow, to say just three psalms, then the three lessons, and then to begin the next nocturn, rather than chug through all nine psalms...<br /><br />But seriously, wasn't it the very preponderance of nine-lesson feasts, using the same small compass of festal psalms (and ditto at Lauds and Vespers) the reason for the wholesale reordering the cursus of psalms inJoshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2031371770440010046.post-62265372939988783292010-02-02T01:57:42.959+11:002010-02-02T01:57:42.959+11:00Joshua,
I'll add it to a list of things I nee...Joshua,<br /><br />I'll add it to a list of things I need to check the references to. (I hope St. Francis was not using Quignonez Breviary!)<br /><br />With regard to length of the Office in theory the pre-1911 Office was considerably longer but in practice it really was not that different to what came afterwards. The calendar was full of feasts of nine lessons and the 'Pius X' Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2031371770440010046.post-53462319015484978602010-02-01T07:30:18.025+11:002010-02-01T07:30:18.025+11:00How interesting - I'd never heard of the case ...How interesting - I'd never heard of the case of St Francis Xavier: do tell.<br /><br />Interesting, too, to read of the "several clerics"...<br /><br />Pardon me, but given the much greater length of the older Office, how do its reciters manage it?Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2031371770440010046.post-40188321968384533322010-02-01T05:17:33.316+11:002010-02-01T05:17:33.316+11:00Joshua,
Whilst I appreciate the Monastic cursus ...Joshua, <br /><br />Whilst I appreciate the Monastic cursus I must confess, <i>de gustibus</i>, to preferring the Roman.<br /><br />Of course Ps. 118 is used on Sundays and Mondays in the Monastic rite for the Little Hours with the same Gradual psalms then used each day from Tuesday to Saturday - is that so different to using Ps. 118?<br /><br /><br />There is the principle <i>'officium pro Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2031371770440010046.post-85942647197646730952010-01-31T09:36:59.756+11:002010-01-31T09:36:59.756+11:00How many ways can one say, Lord, I love Thy Law?
...How many ways can one say, Lord, I love Thy Law?<br /><br />About 176 it seems!<br /><br />It is a pity that, unlike the Monastic Breviary, still available with the hallowed cursus of psalms as arranged by St Benedict, the traditional Roman arrangement of the psalms is now used by no one, at least, not as the official prayer of the Church.<br /><br />(I seem to recall discussion of this - while Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2031371770440010046.post-65803447936404799832010-01-31T07:14:01.240+11:002010-01-31T07:14:01.240+11:00I must beg to differ and say I much prefer to have...I must beg to differ and say I much prefer to have Psalm 118 at the Hours every day. I do not find it boring or tedious but inspiring.<br /><br />The familiarity is also reassuring and comforting.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.com